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10000 Capacity Reduction?
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Author:  googoobaby [ Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:26 pm ]
Post subject:  10000 Capacity Reduction?

Someone just brought to my attention this morning that 10400 max capacity has been reduced to 1.1PB from 1.6PB and 10800s from 3.2PB to 2.2PB. 4TB drives still seem to be available and the 7000s seem the same. Is this some kind of 3.1.3 release issue (or lack thereof)? We saw it in Gartner's CP Storage and confirmed in the recently released Quickspecs updates.

Author:  rho [ Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 10000 Capacity Reduction?

From the QuickSpec -

NOTE: The 1600TB and 3200 TB maximum raw capacity limits for the HP 3PAR StoreServ 10400 and 10800 Storage respectively are applicable only to systems running HP 3PAR OS version 3.1.3 or later

Author:  googoobaby [ Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 10000 Capacity Reduction?

rho wrote:
From the QuickSpec -

NOTE: The 1600TB and 3200 TB maximum raw capacity limits for the HP 3PAR StoreServ 10400 and 10800 Storage respectively are applicable only to systems running HP 3PAR OS version 3.1.3 or later


That's what the previous QuickSpec update said. The new one has lowered numbers and removed this reference.

Author:  rho [ Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 10000 Capacity Reduction?

All the quickspec I find have the "Note" I copied.

Author:  googoobaby [ Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 10000 Capacity Reduction?

You're right, I missed that the note was still there even after the max capacity numbers in the table above have been lowered. Thank you.

Author:  crysrich [ Wed Apr 09, 2014 5:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 10000 Capacity Reduction?

I am part of the product marketing team for HP and this is a typo in the quickspecs. We are working to get it corrected. the posts here are correct, with FW version 3.1.3 you will be able to scale a 10800 to 3.2PBs and the 10400 to 1.6PBs.

Author:  googoobaby [ Wed Apr 09, 2014 5:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 10000 Capacity Reduction?

crysrich wrote:
I am part of the product marketing team for HP and this is a typo in the quickspecs. We are working to get it corrected. the posts here are correct, with FW version 3.1.3 you will be able to scale a 10800 to 3.2PBs and the 10400 to 1.6PBs.


Thanks! The response is greatly appreciated.

Author:  HPEStorageGuy [ Thu Apr 10, 2014 10:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 10000 Capacity Reduction?

Thanks! The response is greatly appreciated.[/quote]

Hey Glenn - does EMC not have similagoogoobabyate guidelines as HP that require you to identify yourself as an EMC employee?

Several years ago, an EMC employee attended HP Discover and lied about who he worked for. I reached out to the EMC VP of HR to ask if EMC had standards on employee behavior where dishonesty is used to gather competitIive information. Shockingly, I was told that EMC didn't have policies like that in place. If they still don't, I would hope you have a higher personal standard to identify yourself as an EMC Competitive Analyst so people in this community understand your intentions.

Calvin (@HPStorageGuy)

UPDATE: Glenn (who I personally know) emailed me to say he is not googoobaby. That said, googoobaby is an EMC employee who did not identify that. Apologies to Glenn and I hope that EMC employees identify who they are instead of deceiving the users group.

Author:  Josh26 [ Thu Apr 10, 2014 6:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 10000 Capacity Reduction?

There is all forms of hell on the VMware forums with employees of various companies coming in to spread concern for various competitors.

I really doubt many companies at all have guidelines about this - in many cases it's the results of a head of marketing actually encouraging it.

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